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and who else? tiffany thiessen. here we go on brand new week on a monday, where to now america? the singular most important question today. president obama's vision for a grand bargain to cut the nation's debt hitting a major road blorks john boehner ruling out a long term deal saying it will only lead to higher taxes, nancy pelosi and any democrats refusing any cuts when it comes to medicare or social security. and the american public gets it, that there has to be shared sacrifice, the american public gets it that there are some folks, millionaire, who haven't been paying their fair share, no pain, no gain. >> i certainly see a pathway forward if we can get out of the paradigm. as what's been said, we're in the age old battle of do
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we raise taxes on the rich or cut spending to the poor. the politics don't work well for a solution. bill: you know what we have, right? >> deadlock. good morning, i'm bill hemmer, how you doing? >> heather: good morning, everyone, i'm heather nauert in for martha maccallum. we are expecting president obama to speak at 11:00 a.m. today, he gave lawmakers ten days to get together and try to make a deal, treasury secretary tim geithner warning we are already on our way to catastrophe. take a listen here: >> a as we go further into july, the world is going to be progressively more concerned about whether this town, this city, washington, d.c., can figure a way to solve this problem, so the risk we face starts to happen in july, but then on august 2nd, we're left running on fumes, we have no capacity to borrow. bill: that's 3 1/2 weeks from now. stuart varney leads our coverage, fox business network. stuart, good morning to you.
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>> bill. bill: can the sides find any common ground now? >> they are miles apart. actually, they are trillions of dollars apart, and taxes are the immediate issue. president obama wants to tax the rich now, and cut spending later. essentially, he wants to tax rich people more in the immediate future on top of the $1 trillion tax increase that's already signed into law for the rich to pay over the next ten years. on the other side, the republicans are basically saying this is not the time to raise taxes on anybody. they're coming off that jobs report on friday, which you and i discussed, which was a terrible report, the republicans are saying you don't raise taxes when you've got a very weak economy. bill: that jobs report changed the tenor of the discussions in a significant way. go back seven months, here is president obama on extending the bush tax cuts from december: >> i've argued that we can't afford it right now, but --
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>> -- >> [applause] >> -- but what i've also said is we've got to find -- a middle class tax hike would be very tough not only on working families, it would also be a drag on our economy at this moment. there's no reason that ordinary americans should see their taxes go up. bill: all right. so that was december. what's changed stuart? >> actually, what's changed is that the economy is now in worse shape, unemployment is worse now than it was in december, so the argument stands, why raise taxes now when the economy is getting worse. now, the president was referring that to middle class people paying more in taxes. he's now saying we want the rich to pay more in taxes. but the republican argument stands. why raise taxes on anybody when the economy has clearly gotten worse? the two sides are miles apart. bill: stuart varney, thank you, see you on fbn, okay?
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>> yes, sir. bill: miles apart, trillions of dollars apart today and we're going to see this play out. here's heather on this. heather: and more on this throughout the morning. nasty consequences for americans in the entire global economy, those twog from christine lagard, she had this to say about the u.s. debt. >> i can't imagine for a second that the united states would default, but clearly, this issue of the debt ceiling has to be resolved, as otherwise, there would be a hike in interest rates, there would be a much heavier burden to be borne by, you know, all the u.s. taxpayers at the end of the day. >> la garde adds if just fails to raise the borrowing limit it would cause prices to fall,by bill here is what we believe we're up against now. the treasury department expecting the nation to hit the default on its bills come august 2nd, unless the debt limit is raised.
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administration aides saying an agreement must be reached by july 22nd to give congress time to pass the bill ahead of that deadline, and get this, congress has raised the debt ceiling 102 times, since first instituted in 1917. it has raised it ten times over the past ten years alone. >> heather: and it's once a year, right there. the obama has said this repeatedly, he wants to raise taxes on the rich, but according to the associated press today, all taxpayers may bear the brunt if democrats get their way. the a.p. writing this this morning, quote, proposals under consideration include raising taxes on small business owners, and potentially low and middle income families. you won't hear about that from president obama. instead, the president focuses on the very rich and speaksute musically. -- speaks euphimistically. >> andry, these are certainly fighting words.
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if this is what the president intends to do can he count on his backers to continue support in him if this includes more broad-based tax hikes? >> well, i think the business community, that will be very tough for him to attain that support in an election year, but look, his base is very fired up, they want him to tax the rich and that's why you hear him using that language, although heather, i have to say, i do not see that happening. if john boehner and republicans vote on some kind of deal to raise taxes, that would be absolutely suicidal in an election year. look, i think the best thing that could happen to president obama is that republicans bring him more in line with their polices, which is not to raise taxes, and to embrace cuts. i think that would be the best thing, because then he, for him, in an election year, can say look, i didn't raise taxes on anyone, particularly the job creator, which is what we need more than ever. >> so republicans can't afford to alienate their base but neither can democrats. bob, why don't you take a stab at this one. if the associated press is
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correct in that middle income, lower income americans could end up paying more in taxes, the president could be in real trouble here. >> the associated press is wrong, wrong, wrong. i think what you're reading there is the associated press editorial comment. but leaving that aside, the fact of the matter is if republicans want to go out and campaign on not increasing taxes not on middle class or lower income people but on millionaires and billionaires and give oil companies tax cuts and tax cuts for corporate aircraft, let them go do it but look, i have a lot of respect for john boehner, i think boehner was exactly right, his instincts were let's get a big deal, the problem is he couldn't sell it to his caucus dominated by tea party who consider themselves patriots, but this -- >> six months ago you heard bill talking about it with stuart varney, said we shouldn't be raising taxes in a down economy. andrea. >> he's absolutely right. these crazy tea partiers that bob loves to blast every chance he gets have the same position that president obama essentially
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had in 2006 when he said we shouldn't vote to raise the debt ceiling and if we did it would be irresponsible so the president, big political issues on the line but i agree with bob in one respect, john boehner has real trouble within his conference. there are members of the gop caucus that have come out and said we're not voting for any kind of deal as long as it includes raising the debt ceiling so boehner does have to work with democrats. big challenges on both sides. heather: democrats bob certainly have a problem, a lot of them are saying no cuts to social security, no cuts to medicare, no cuts to medicaid. how do we solve this entitlement problem, this problem that is taking so much money out of our country, without tackling those issues, bob? >> first of all, we're willing to do that if you went through a big $4 trillion deal, but the republicans refuse to do anything in terms of revenue. by the way, president obama, when he made that statement, he had to be pulled and drag ged to keep the tax cuts for rich people, but leaving that aside, look, we're talking about the full faith
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and credit of the united states government and my view is now, if the president has to keep dealing with these people and they're not going to be willing to get serious and be adults, then i think you ought to institute the 14th amendment and raise it himself. >> well, we will be watching it. by the way, the two of you, you've got a show starting at 5:00 today. >> we do. >> a quick preview, about ten seconds. >> you saw the preview, right? bob and i could battle for an hour! >> there's no host and i'm outnumbered as usual, 4-1. >> all right bob! >> bob and andrea, we'll be watching that today, 5:00 eastern. bill: something tells me you can handle it! i think you can! see you guys 5:00, very much looking forward to that launch today. from china, the country's top general saying the u.s. spends too much money on its own military. his advice, cut back on defense spending, improve the livelihood of the american people. china's military budget is the world's second largest after the united states. interesting there. heather: back to that
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earlier conversation, we'll have a lot more on the debt talks throughout the morning, we'll talk to the ranking republican on the budget committee, senator jeff sessions and brit hume on how he thinks all of this will play out. as for what we can expect today, log on to to get the details. bill: your other news source while we're sitting here, right, for the next few hours. >> those are a few of the stories we're watch, in a moment, two major house hearings happen this week, many arguing that the health care law is rationing in the skies. dr. marc siegl on what that means for you as a patient. heather: then there's this, rockets reigning down in -- raining down in baghdad, saying the u.s. is close to defeating al-qaeda. is leanne panetta right? what's going on there? >> bill: they found a stun gun on board a jetblue flight and that's not supposed to happen. new details on how it did. >> it must have been intelligence or something, i don't know, they must have figured out some way to go
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his way around. >> i can't imagine getting anything through, hats off, belts off, everything, so that was pretty amazing.
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heather: the death toll is rising in a weekend train de derailment in northern india, 67 are killed and 100 hurt, rescuers warn that many more could be trapped inside this twisted wreckage, as for the cause of the derailment reports indicate that the engineer may have pulled the emergency brake in order to save cattle on the track. india's massive railroad system,le plagued by accidents with many blamed on poor maintenance and human error. bill: coming this week in washington, watch these hearings, house lawmakers renewing focus on the health care law this week. specifically, a cost cutting panel that many charge republicans and some democrats alike that will ration care for millions of americans. dr. marc siegl is part of our fox news medical a team
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and good morning to you doctor. >> good morning, bill. >> in your book, the inner pulse, you write about this bit. what do you say? >> i say that medicine is an part and -- is an art and it's where the doctor listened to the patients 57bd figure the outs what's going on. doctors need to have arrows in our quiver to be able to treat the paint. the problem is it's more bureaucrats, it's not going to be practicing doctors like me, it's going to be policy wonk, and they're going to decide from on high which services are good, what aren't, we've even seen a taste of that already with a u.s. preventative services task force saying here's when you should have a coloscopy, a mammogram, it's called guidelines and the more guidelines are paid attention to by boards like this the more government oriented rationing we're going to have. bill: you're saying this is rationing then. >> i want to be specific about this because that word rationing gets bandied around a lot. it's a specific kind of rationing. yes, private insurers tell
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me what -- every day what i can and can't order, yes i'm limited by cost already but government rationing means that people on high are going to tell me this particular service is useful and this isn't and it's always, always, based on some study where the patients are cherry picked, where all the findings may not be in, a lot of times these things are reversed and i want to tell you a real headline that no one is talking about. medicare is the torch bearer. in other words, once medicare decides that it's not going to cover a service, then the private insurers always follow suit. if that's the way it's gone up until now and this will get a lot worse. and sebelius is saying well, but congress can always block these payment cuts. congress is never going to do that, and congress is never going to throw out these people once they aapproved. bill: sebelius is going to testify at these hearings. what you're saying is it's no longer you and me together, i've got a middle man now. >> more and more. we already have a middle man with a private insurer, with
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medicare, now we're going to have 12 more people that are going to say you can have it and have that. that interferes with the art of the medicine. bill: it's called the independent payment advisory board. igab. it sounds almost scary. >> it's big brother and it's coming in 2014. i'm telling you, i don't mean to scare people out there but we need less of this, not more. bill: the administration wants this and they want it because they -- because they want to save money. do they have a point? >> no. because you have the art of medicine to save money. how does it save money if the person ends up getting sick because some test was cut? if i can't order the test i need or treatment i need the patient could actually get sicker. there's no evidence this kind of thing saves money. bill: through all of this, frankly, you haven't said anything positive, yet, but that's okay, this is your view, you see patients every day. can this be reversed? can taliban reversed or does that only happen on repeal of the law? >> i think this can be reversed. i think this is a specific
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thing that should be reversed. we can get this out of the law, this is something that should be removed. we have enough bureaucrats. bill: the inner pulse, he wrote the book, dr. marc siegl, thank you, fox news medical a team. good to see you. >> you too. heather: another black eye for the tsa, ten days after a nigerian man takes a joy ride with an expired passport, can you believe this, a stun gun makes its way on to a flight from logan airport to newark. live with the details. bill: a thrilling last minute goal, if you did not see it, man, you missed out, women's world cup soccer, abby wombach, that was the winner, next stop, the finals on wednesday with france and the u.s.
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bill: so you wait all year for summer to come along and then there's this, a series of shark sightings keeping money folks -- many folks out of the water, at least three confirmed sightings along the shores of cape cod, massachusetts and the town of chatham. while some people are still venturing into the water others say it kind of makes them a little too nervous up there. >> i don't like to go beyond like 1 foot of water, i get a little scared, but you know, i'm not too worried about it, as long as they keep their distance. >> there's not a lot of families here, which i understand why. certainly if i was a mother and had children i wouldn't want them out there. honestly, i would like to see a shark! i think it would be kind of cool from back here with safety, of course. >> would i go swimming today, possibly no, because i can still remember the jaws music in my ears, even if it wasn't the shark sightings on the tv i'd think of jaws when i went into the water.
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bill: so do we! thank you steven steeleberg! so far there are no plans to close the beaches. heather: tragedy to tell you about this morning, it happened over the weekend at an amusement park, an american war hero is thrown from a roller coaster and dies, investigators are looking into why an iraq war veteran who lost both legs due on to a bomb was allowed on the ride. it happened in upstate new york, the death of sergeant james hackmire sparking a new push for legislation over theme park safety. david lee miller is covering this story live from our new york city newsroom. >> authorities are still this morning trying to figure out exactly what went wrong. was there a mechanical failure on the ride of the steel roller coaster and the limitations that contributed to this tragedy. the ride is now shut down at the park in upstate new york as authorities continue to
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investigate the incident. in addition to losing both legs in 2008, the sergeant suffered two stroke, brain damage and spent years in rehab. one of his sisters said he died doing something he loved. >> he did believe in leaving life to the fullest and i know when this happened, he was having a great time. we're trying not to feel guilty for taking him to the park, he said he wanted to go so badly with us. there's a lot of emotion right now. >> his death has led to renewed calls for federal oversight of amusement parks, massachusetts democrat congressman edward markey says local and state regular -- regulators lack the resources to make sure amusement parks are safe, the industry says there's no evidence to suggest federal regulations would improve safety, he says channels of being injured in a ride, one in 9 million. this morning the sergeant is being remembered as someone who despite his disability tried to live life to the fullest, after his return from iraq, he told the local
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reporter he was a man of faith. >> i know that god has been there for me since the beginning, has had a hand on me since the beginning, i want people to know he's there for everybody, no matter what he's going -- what they're going through, he is always there by your side, so if you're down, turn to him, he'll pick you right back up. >> following the accident his mother nancy said they shouldn't have had him these last year and three months. it's going to help a little bit that he was happy. heather: david lee miller, thank you. bill: a tragedy. it's not supposed to go that way, is it. wow. there is a high stayings battle over your money and america's future playing out in washington, raise taxes or cut spending. who will be first -- who will we blame first in the nation's staggering debt? >> and in the streets of mexico, at least 40 people killed in just -- in just 24
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hours, who is behind the deadly wave of violence?
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bill: so here's what you have, the president is giving lawmakers ten days to come up with a deal that can pass the house and senate and fix our nation's debt. president obama says he wants a grand deal, that spending cuts, entitlement reform, and taxes, but that deal is now in shambles because of that last demand of higher taxes. republican senator jeff sessions out of alabama,
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ranking member of the senate budget committee, senator, welcome back here and good morning! welcome here to "america's newsroom". >> hi bill. bill: what now? >> well, the republicans have pushed so hard for months now to have a long term historic agreement that does include fixing our entitlement programs. the president had not joined in on that until recently. but the disappointing -- really disappointing aspect of it was he demanded huge tax increases as a price to act on those programs that needed to be acted on now. so we're not in a good situation to have the prospect for a really historic alteration of our spending trajectory that we would hope to have achieved. so i don't know. i believe the debt ceiling needs to be raised, we might as well do it before august 2nd. if we can't reach a significant agreement, it will have to be done at a
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much shorter time period so we can continue to discuss the critical issues that this debt faces america. bill: if that's what do you and you go ahead and take a vote and raise the debt ceiling, you know what the american people are going to say. you're just kicking the can down the road. >> that's exactly -- >> bill: take up the big issues for another time. >> that would be exactly right, we'd be kicking them down the road, but i don't think the alternative is a major -- to capitulate a major tax increase or do nothing. bill: i apologize for the interruption. 2-$3 trillion? in cuts? would that be acceptable to you? >> oh, i think that -- >> bill: is that manageable? >> i think -- look, the republicans have proposed long term budgets that go from as much as 6-$10 trillion, in spending cuts. the white house apparently in some of these secret
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negotiations have indicated they might accept a $2 trillion cut. that's not nearly enough, bill. we'll increase the debt by $13 trillion over the next ten years, reducing it by two is not enough. but it would be a step in the right direction, and the debt ceiling being here, maybe that could be an action that would occur, frankly, but i'm -- i am not in that secret room, and i don't know the details of what may be occurring there. perhaps there will be a change, a breakthrough. bill: may be. but a week ago, john boehner said he wants to raise taxes, i don't have the votes in the house to get that through and on wednesday, thursday, nancy pelosi said no cuts in medicare, no cuts in social security and she joined the talk, so that's where the two sides are and they are traditional positions they have at stake but on this debt ceiling, i don't know what to believe. you know, everybody says the sky is going to fall on august 2nd, other people
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argue listen to senator jim demint in south carolina over the weekend, he says that's bull, we've been told this in the past, that if we did not act now, that we were going right down the drain. what is the truth on the debt ceiling as you understand it? if we do not act by the first week of august. >> look, it's not going to be good for this country if we have to go through the disruption, and it will be a huge disruption, of not raising the debt ceiling. the payments will be made, the constitution requires it, but it will require huge reductions in all other spending and i think it would be not good management on behalf of the country, as conservative as i am and worried as i am about it i think the smart thing to do would be to take significant reductions today, even though they're not nearly enough and continue to carry this battle forward.
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that's my personal view. now, jim demint, if the country would listen to jim, we'd be on a sound basis, because he understands the threat that the debt faces -- presents to our country, and one reason we have had such bad job numbers is because our growth is down because the debt as it exists today, 95 percent of gdp, is so high, economists tell us it's pulling down growth at least 1 percent. this costs 1 million jobs a year. the debt is a threat right now. it is weakening our economy right now. we've got to take strong steps to fix it. bill: senator, thank you for your time. >> yes, sir, thank you bill. bill: from alabama. what do you think at home? we want to hear from you. this is our question online: what is the most effective action president obama and congress could agree on to solve our debt crisis now? more than 3400 votes online, 66 percent say the answer is
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significantly slashing government spending. weigh in and vote online,"america's newsroom". heather: we will hear from the president in about nine minutes. in the meantime there's news out from overseas this morning, tense moments in baghdad this morning, three rockets hitting the city during a visit by secretary of defense leon panetta, no injuries reported at this time but this attack is coming after mr. panetta made a bold assessment on the fight against terror, the newing it chief says the u.s. is on the verge of defeating al-qaeda for good. take a listen: >> the key is that having gotten bin laden, we've now identified some of the key leadership within al-qaeda, both in pakistan, as well as in yemen and other areas. that if we can be successful at going after them, i think we can really undermine their ability. heather: all right. well, you heard it there.
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are we really that close to wiping out al-qaeda? let's ask peter brooks, a senior fellow for national security affairs at the hurtarg foundation and a former cia officer, he joins us live from washington. good morning peter. >> good morning, heather. heather: what do you think about that assessment, do you agree with it? >> i certainly hope he's right. i'm not sure what he's basing it on. i think what they've done here is they believe they're on the verge of strategically de feeding al-qaeda because they've gotten rid of bin laden, they have to get rid of zawahiri and they have ten, 20 other leaders they believe they will be able to target in pakistan, somalia, the other country he didn't mention, so i hope he knows something i don't know but what i worry about, this may have two backdrops to it. one, it could make us com placent about the threat, the other is i hope it's not laced with any sort of political sentiment for us to increase or accelerate our withdrawal from afghanistan. so i'd like to know a little more about why the secretary said this, and what he's basing it on.
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heather: peter, that's what i was wondering about when i heard this over the weekend, these messages are always crafted very carefully. why send this message now and i'm wondering to what extent it might have been a message to president karzai in afghanistan, hey, we're not going there be there -- going to be there forever, get your house in order or a message to the american public? >> i think it's talking to a lot of people. obviously people in the united states because the president has just decided to withdraw 33,000 troops over the next year from afghanistan. i think he's trying to wind down that war in afghanistan. that's what the president wants. i think you're right, there is also an international audience around the world, and they may also be able to tell al-qaeda or folks who might join al-qaeda that hey, it's not really worth joining up because the fact of the matter is we've got you on the run now. and i do agree with him that it's worthwhile, putting as much pressure on this organization after taking down usama bin laden as possible, and as i mentioned
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, we've extended our area of operations into somalia now with drone strikes, so i hope he's right. there's a lot of people he's talking to. and we'll just have to see what happens. but we can't afford to become com complacent about that threat. >> peter, there's another popular theory and that is we don't need to worry so much about al-qaeda-trained terrorists anymore but rather, our bigger issue is the lone wolves. >> sure. absolutely. we have to be very concerned about lone wolf, self--radicalized people already in the united states or for some reason can travel here quite easily. obviously, that is a major threat, and i think that's why in one of the statements he talked about strategically defeats al-qaeda as he was talking about the senior leadership. it's like perhaps taking out qaddafi in libya, you might say we defeated the government because he's no longer around, but i think in this case, what they're trying to do is that -- they didn't say tactically defeated because they expect there will still be al-qaeda
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attacks out there but if they can take out the leadership they've done a great job in cariocantating their ability to plan, train and operate. heather: we'll watch that situation closely going on. peter brooks, thank you very much. bill: getting news of the u.s. embassy overseas being attacked, we'll get more on that information and tell you where you, also. newt gingrich saying president obama has his own depression on his hands. what can be done to turn the the jobs picture around? it's the question of the day again. heather: red faces at the tsa this morning, this take taking heat for patting down children, 13 and nine-year-olds, and then there's this, folks at airport security managed to miss this. see this black box? it is a stun gun, and it's stunning to learn it made its way on board an airplane, completely undetected. so what's going on in our nation's airports? >> i don't know how they could miss it. i went through such a thorough check. >> they're cracking down on security now, and you would think that something big like that would, you know,
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be noticed.
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bill: here's the breaking news now and fox news alert out of damascus, syria, reports that reuters and other news agencies, protestors loyal to government have attacked a u.s. embassy compound, entering that compound, do not know if they ever made it inside, but at one point, setting up a syrian flag on the property. loyalists trying to break off from the french embassy earlier, all this comes as the regime supporters protested outside both embassies for a third straight day. so we knew they were there, and we knew there was a possibility they'd be coming even more. the u.s. and french ambassadors angered the syrian government last week when they visited a flashpoint town in syria, these protests have been going on for four-months now in syria, reports say at least 1200 have been killed by the government. we're watching this story now. it is breaking news out of damascus in the middle east. heather. heather: in the meantime, there is this, drivers
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getting a relief at the pump, gas dropping 1 cents over the past two weeks, the national average for regular gasoline, 3.62 a gallon. let's take a look now at how the markets are reacting to the economic news today. so much uncertainty going on in the united states, bill, on wall street. early trading, we're down more than 100 points, right now, down about 130 points. we'll continue to keep an eye on the markets throughout the morning. also the president, speaking about this whole debt issue. bill: he sure is. heather: at 11:00 this morning. wall street is waiting to hear. what exactly is going to happen on that. bill: a curious time to call a press conference. we'll talk to brit hume about it in 15 minutes. they're investigating how a stun gun turns up on a jetblue flight from boston to newark, new jersey when the cleaning crew sound it in a seat back pocket. we'll show you photos of the device, this coming ten days after a nigerian man flew across the country on an expired boarding pass with
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someone else's name on it. tom blank is former deputy director to the tsa and tom, good morning to you. first, how does this happen, tom? >> well, we're talking about the checkpoint where tsa screens 2 million people every day, and clearly, prohibited items are a big risk and threat that they're looking for. in this case, the system failed. but i have no doubt that the individual that carried that help through the checkpoint and on to an aircraft is going to be found and is going to be caught. bill: let me be clear, you're not excusing this, are you, or are you suggesting that 2 million passengers a day, they're handling a lot, but in the end, that's their job. >> that's their job, and i think that we have to think about how high the bar is set. i mean, do we expect that when you look at 2 million people, as diverse a population as you can find, every single day, that the system is going to be perfect.
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bill: i got you, but if i've got shampoo in my bag, that's out. someone has a stun gun and it made it through. >> well, that's what we've got to find out, where is the weakness in the system, why did that happen. they have videotapes of the checkpoints, they have x-rays of all the passengers' carry-on luggage, they will examine all that and find out how that happened. they'll also investigate was it the a cleaning crew and other airline or personnel that have access may have been the source of it getting on to the airplane. a lot to find out. bill: you're right about that and in the end, i'll ask you whether or not we will find out. was this a test run? was this a plant by someone that was trying to embarrass the tsa? >> well, i don't know if it was trying to embarrass, but certainly, tsa knows that its system is being probed and tested all the time. usually those are by evil doers rather than somebody trying to embarrass the agency. so this may have been some new shape of stun gun, some new weapon that the tsa hasn't seen before.
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so yes, it could easily be a test. bill: all right. do you think we will know how this got there and who it belongs to? >> i very much do. i think there's a number of people that were on that flight, sitting in that seat, and sitting in seats around that particular location where the gun was found. i think they're going to have some fun with q & a and the fbi in the course of the day, all those people. bill: that could be. do air marshals airy stun guns, do you know and can we report that? >> yes, air marshals fly armed with weapons, real guns. not stun guns. bill: there's another stunning story, to borrow a phrase here, a nigerian american traveling on someone else's boarding pass, flew all the way across the country, a boarding pass that had been expired. when they finally caught up to him because he wanted to travel from l.a. to thront, he -- to atlanta, he had ten other boarding passes in his luggage. now, you have to have an i.d., a valid driver's
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license or passport that matches the boarding pass, not only does the date have to be right, but the name has got to match. how does this happen? >> well, this is a serious breakdown in tsa's process. clearly the i.d. checker didn't do his or her job. that needs to be investigated, an appropriate des plin area action taken. where i would further fault the tsa is they've been very slow in procuring and deploying technology that will defect a fraudulent i.d. that technology exists and it should be out there, and so when you come with your i.d., they should be able to determine whether it is a valid government-issued i.d. a nigerian student i.d. doesn't really count. bill: that's a great point. thank you tom. we'll talk again, okay? tom blank, all right, thank you for coming in today. heather. heather: well, violence exploding south of the border, battles raging in cities across that country. listen to this. forty bodies in 24 hours.
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bill: awful story here, a small plane crash, killing seven people in alabama over the weekend, faa is now blaming engine failure for that. that plane was enroute from missouri to florida, the pilot tried an emergency landing at an airport in
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alabama, but he crashed in a wooded area, about 2 miles from the airport. there were two adults, five children on board that plane. what a tragedy that is. heather: well, we have hacker news to tell but, royal couple william and kate are back at home in britain after a whirlwind 9-day visit to canada and the united states. the nutly weds wrappinging up their travels in california over the weekend, taking part in a polo match, among other events over the weekend. >> catherine and i have had a busy few days, so the prospect of being able to let loose this afternoon is wonderful for me. that's what the sport is all about, be it polo, football, soccer. or whatever your preferred sport is. >> well, for more on the royal couple's weekend here in the united states, let's go live to bob decs -- decastro from kttv. we saw the video and it looked like a whole lot of
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celebrities off and oning over them. how was the trip? >> well, the 2 1/2 day visit went out a hitch. this was really well orchestrated. as you said, they did everything, they hobnobbed with celebrities, walked the red carpet, there was an event on saturday night, the british film and television event where they talked about collaborating with hollywood and there they rubbed elbows with a list celebrity the, tom hanks, jennifer lopez, barbra streisand, nicole kidman at a big gala there, and the following day, which was yesterday, they did some charitable work, philanthropic work, they went to the inner city, skid row, and talked with kids there, they made pottery and hand painting and went to the inner city arts academy, founded in 1989, lots of arts programs have been cut from public schools here, so that's the program to give kids a leg up, and then yesterday afternoon, they went to the sony studios, and there they had veterans there, and there's an organization called service
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nation, and it basically gets companies together with veterans to try to give veterans that have gone to war, when they come back, get them jaws and spouses jobs and after that, it was on a plane and back to london. so certainly a huge sampling in los angeles, they got to see, like i said, the celebrities, and did philanthropic work as well. >> thank you, bob dicastro. bill: they looked good doing it, i think they weigh like 150 pounds together. >> combined! bill: combined. so a leading republican, saying that the casey anthony trial is a very good example why terror suspects should stay out of civilian courts. is he right? >> heather: there is a major standoff that we are talking about this morning, neither side willing to blink. we are waiting to hear from president obama, 11:00 eastern time, the president expected to speak. will there be a deal or are we on a fast track to a financial catastrophe? brit hume is here, that's
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bill: a "fox news alert," looking for more information out of our middle east bureau in jerusalem, what is happening in damascus, witnesses say syrian protesters have breached the compound of the u.s. embassy in damascus, moments ago. they were protesting three days and did not breach the security of the building itself. because, u.s. marines charged with guarding embassies around the world, reacted, and that is when demonstrators were pushed out. there was some damage to the building itself, but, no embassy staff were injured. nor are they said to be in danger and the french embassy came under protests as well and the french embassy, did not breach the compound and they did, at the u.s. site, so we're working more information on that and trying to figure out what the syrian governments and how they will respond next as protests continue in that
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country. another show down, because, we are counting down to what could be a landmark moment. in the battle for america's financial future. president obama will speak live, within the hour, with an update on the negotiations, to reduce the soaring national debt. as talks grind to a halt, both sides very far apart. what happens when you drive it up over $14 trillion. good morning, on a monday. hope you had a great weekend. i mean, the -- if we could put the weather into a bottle. >> we wouldn't have any financial problems, would we. bill: i'm bill hemmer, good morning and welcome back to heather. >> i'm heather nauert in for martha maccallum today, cuts to medicare, medicaid, social security, tied to an overhaul of the entire tax code. bill: republican leadership saying, that means the tax increase -- a tax increase which is a deal-breaker and it will not happen.
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so. >> so is a $4 trillion deal off the table. >> i think it is, because everything they told me and the speaker is that to get a big package, would require a big tax increase in the middle of the economic situation, that is extraordinarily difficult, with 9.2% unemployment, it is a terrible idea. a job-killer. bill: mitch mcconnell, the republican senator out of kentucky with bret baier, working for chris wallace over the weekend. brit hume is here, fox news senior political analyst. i'll play for you john boehner, the republican reality, followed by nancy pelosi, which appears to be the democratic reality in all of this, okay? roll them both, and i'll ask you about it, brit. >> we have to stop spending money we don't have. and, since the beginning, the majority leader and myself along with senator mcconnell and senator kyl have been clear, tax hikes are off the table. >> we are not going to reduce the deficit or subsidize tax
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cuts for the rich on the backs of america's seniors. and working families. no benefit cuts in medicare and social security. bill: they have drawn their own lines and i'm trying to figure out what can pass in congress. whether it is the tax hikes, no tax hikes, whether or not nancy pelosi is right and can say, you know, keep social security out of this... i mean, at the moment, president obama is going to be sitting at the table, and can he get a deal done, and if so, what does it looks like? your best guess. >> it is -- he can't get a deal, the kind bandied about the last week or so where serious restructuring takes place in the entitlement programs, in exchange for an increase in the debt limit, which republicans as a party are hesitant to vote for, but, also, a package of significant tax increases. and the tax increases are a
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deal-breaker to the extent the administration and the democrats have insisted on them as part of any large deal, that is the end of that. now, that doesn't mean that some smaller set of reforms cannot be enacted, in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling and that is the direction in which republicans are now going to try to go. i... you know, there will be more brinkmanship and i expect the president will try to prepare the battle field a little bit more, by stating the republicans are for, you know, depriving, the lame and blind the benefits, so, rich people with jet planes can keep their tax break or whatever. so, you know, i can't... i don't know he'll do that but i suspect he will. bill: maybe they know what keel they can get through conference anyway, why hold the press conference before the meeting is
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underway? >> to put the other side on the defensive and weaken the bargaining leverage of the republicans. the republicans, however, are very wary of being drawn into the trap into which newt gingrich and the republicans fell back in 1995. when the president let the government close as a result of a budget -- no budget being passed. and, the republicans got all of the blame for that. now, the president had some things going for him at the time and there was a lot of bold talk by the republicans, they were kind of blustery about the whole thing and seemed to be in favor of shutting the government down, in addition, to the news media which was exceedingly favorable to president clinton in the fight helped as well and the atmosphere is different. the economy is bad and the jobs number weakened the president's political standing and, so, that is where we are. bill: i thought you made an interesting point, yesterday morning with the gang there on fox news sunday.
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can the president still come out as a kingmaker in the. >> a great big deal of the kind that has been talked about, if he holds enough members of his party together with him, particularly in the senate and also in the house as well, great, big deal, would be of inestimatable political benefit to him, it would take intending issue, so helpful to republicans -- and it was in the midterm elections, and, to some extent, even the debt issue off the table, if we had in place a set of reforms that were honestly projected to bring the deficit and, therefore, eventually, the national debt under some control over a period of years, that would help him a lot. it would help him politically and it would revive to some stents, would revive a presidency which now seems, in some respect moribund and hopes he can get it and it would be useful to republicans as long as they don't swallow tax increase,
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which they have sworn to oppose to get it and that, of course is the sticking point, the republicans say eliminate exclusions and loopholes which would bring in more revenue at least on paper and in exchanges for that you lower the corporate rate and the individual income tax rate and it ends up being basically revenue-neutral, but it improves the tax code and, makes it simpler and people will like that but you can't do that between now and the time of the debt limit increase, and that is part of the problem. bill: good to see you, in washington, thank you and we'll see the president, 56 minutes and find out what he says then, thank you, brit. >> and here's the question so many are asking on this very subject, what happens if nothing happens? if we reach the august 2nd deadline, with no action, will the u.s. economy be running on empty? treasury secretary tim geithner warns that could be catastrophic. here's what he said over the weekend:
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>> the credit agencies around the world said if congress doesn't act by the 2nd they will downgrade our credit. first time in history. and, if that happens, you will see catastrophic damage across the american economy and across the global economy. it is not something we -- failure is not an option. >> at the same time, geithner says the congressional leaders understand the stakes and despite some republican claims that he is exaggerating the implications of missing the deadline. but, there are a lot of folks on capitol hill, who say we will not miss the deadline, we'll get it figured out. who knows. bill: see what it looks like, too. what would jesus do about the debt? what new york democrat charlie rangel wants to know. he says he's not sure exactly how the higher authority would respond to the cites, but religious leaders should be part of the conversation. >> what would jesus do this weekend? or moses or allah or anyone else? but i don't want this book closed. without the clergy having an opportunity to forcefully
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express themselves. bill: he called it a moral question, cutting entitlement spending versus increased taxes for the wealthy. he's, quote, surprised we dent hear more from clergy coast-to-coast and debt battles are topic of the day. what do you think at home? we are asking you what do you think is the most effective action, president obama and congress could agree onto solve the debt crisis, now a huge majority of voters think significantly slashing government spending is the answer, 2/3 saying that is the right choice. more than 8400 votes, you can vote on-line at right there on our home page, can't miss it. on-line, right now. >> we do have other news to tell you about, folks, the family of a u.s. border patrol agent, who was killed near the mexican border they say they want justice, and brian terry's family is looking to sue the federal government after he was killed possibly by a weapon from the botched gun running sting, fast and furious. we told you so much about the
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program, which intentionally funneled thousands of weapons into mexico. here's darrell issa on "fox & friends," this morning. >> whether it is brian terry's family, or the other agent that was likely killed with fast and furious weapons, they have a right to know what this was all about and why, quite frankly, their family members died in what shouldn't have happened. and, understand, this was -- was bone-headed even if it went right, as could be, and of course it went very wrong. >> congressman issa agreeing with so many americans, saying, this should never have happened, in the first place, william lajeunesse is following the story, live from los angeles for us, good morning, william and what is the status of the lawsuit? >> reporter: well, heather, generally government officials cannot be sued for damages, however, miss guide order incomp tents, however there are exceptions when agencies can reasonably foresee their actions will do harm.
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is that the case here where the government put thousands of guns in the hands of mexican cartels and watched as casualties mounted. agent brian terry died patrolling the area near tucson in december, prosecutors claimed this man pulled the trigger. and the search for justice will not end there. >> anybody who put these weapons in the killer's hands, may be liable. >> reporter: paul was arizona's u.s. attorney for 7 years. >> i have never seen an investigation in which guns were intentionally allowed to walk. that sort of thing doesn't happen, ought not to happen. >> reporter: but in operation fast and furious it did, exposing the government to liability. >> his loss was preventable, regrettable and preventable. >> reporter: congressman darrell issa called for hearings after learning the atf helped sell thousands of guns to known criminals. >> i just was flabbergasted.
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i just... i didn't believe it at first. >> reporter: the terry family says it doesn't want u.s. officials prosecuted criminally in his death. but, civil court is something else. >> if the evidence shows that brian's death was proximately caused by the negligence of the government there may be a cause of action. >> reporter: bottom line, heather, the filing of a claim is not certain. that is yet to come, for the attorneys to decide. back to you. >> we'll be watching, thank you. bill: fighting words now from the republican white house contender after president obama's senior campaign advisor saying the jobs really will not matter, the unemployment will not matter to voters in 2012. >> i guarantee you the unemployment rate matters, the economy matters, the price of housing matters. and, on every one of those issues, this obama depression is real. bill: does president obama own this recession? what can be done to turn it around? more from newt gingrich, on that. >> and a blood-soaked thing you
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heather: tough words over the weekend from presidential candidate newt gingrich calling the current economics situation the obama depression, and,
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hammering the administration's performance on the heels of a crushing jobs report. that came out last week, showing the unemployment rate now stands at 9.2%. listen to what he said. >> 9.2%, now, for month after month after month, this is the obama depression. housing prices have dropped deeper than the great depression, and, it is very clear, that under obama's job-killing policies, we're not going to get out of this deep unemployment. heather: all right, so is this and obama depression, as newt gingrich calls it? and how can we get jobs rolling in the country again? steve moore, is a senior economic writer for the "wall street journal." stephen is that fair to call it obama's depression? >> well, you know, what is the old saying, heather? a recession is when your neighbor is out of work and depression is when you are out of work, and as the saying goes, recovery is when obama is out of work. and, look, i think that for people who have lost their jobs, who have been out of work for now, 6 months or a year or a
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year-and-a-half, it does feel like a depression and the other element of this, it is not just unemployment, heather, it is also the fact prices are rising and people are getting squeezed and the other thing we found with the employment report, that came out on friday, heather, was that wages are down, so, family incomes are down, it making families feel stretched right now. >> and we're spending a lot more on food prices and gas, and you name it. let me ask you, companies are reporting strong profits, and interest rates are very low, so, what do you see as the main problem for companies not creating these jobs? >> well, you know, that is the big problem with the economy right now, heather. it is kind of a curse and a blessing and the blessing is, you are right, american companies and corporations have a lot of cash on hand and they have had a lot of profits over the last five years or so, get but, guess what what, they are not spending it and are in hibernation and are afraid to expand and in my opinion that is largely attributable to what is happening in washington, uncertainty, what will happen with the debt and the spending
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and what will we do with the tax code, all of the regulation, all thee thin these things are putting american businesses in a cocoon and they will not spend the money and that means they are not creating jobs. heather: that is one thing corporations don't like, uncertainty and there is so much uncertainty right now, did you see tim geithner over the weekend? >> i did. heather: on "meet the press," he said he was blaming high gas prices and weather problems, and all of that, fiscal problems, overseas in europe, blaming that on our troubles here. our troubles here, are caused by that. and he didn't mention u.s. fiscal policy. what do you think the role of u.s. fiscal policy is? in not creating jobs in the country? >> well, i think tim geithner said the same thing last month when we had a lousy unemployment report, and there is truth to that but with month after month of lousy unemployment numbers it is hard to attribute these things to minor factors. in my opinion, the major factor behind this prolonged recession has been we have an $800 billion stimulus will, that actually
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didn't bring unemployment down, heather and the rate went up. and this is in my opinion one the of the most expensive public policy failures in american history and the problem is, we spent the $800 billion now, almost all of that money has gone through the pipeline, and, now, all we have to show for it is the huge debt overhang and, we are in a very precarious economic position right now because the debt is so big, we can't continue to spend to get our way out of it. heather: quaickly, the presiden is going to speak at 11:00, talking about the status of the negotiation, what do corporation want to hear from the president? >> that he will bring tax rates down which is really important. heather: doesn't look like that will happen. >> who knows and number 2, we will not have a tax increase, if you look at our editorial today, we said they had a major tax increase and, number 3, that they'll be serious about bringing spending down over the long term, so we don't have a trillion-and-a-half dollars of debt year after year after year. that is what we have to do. heather: we have to leave it there, from "wall street
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journal," thanks. >> have a great day. heather: the issue is not going away. bill: all right, now the verdict that shocked many, they say casey anthony got away with murder. now, a leading republican in the senate saying there is a big lesson to learn from that trial, we'll tell you what that is. heather: and plenty of obstacles to winning the tour de france but a moving car is not supposed to be one of them. we'll tell you what happened. ♪ ♪ don't pass me by ♪ don't make me cry ♪ don't make me blue ♪ 'cause you know darling, i love only you...♪ call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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heather: a scary scene taking place at the tour de france, a tv car slamming into one of the riders, knocking him sideways, on his way down to the pavement he clipped the wheel of another
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cyclist, sending the guy slipping into, get this, barbed wire -- ouch, the rider struck suffered an elbow injury and the other man received a series of lacerations, from the fence, of course and amazingly, both recovered and guess what they did? they got right back into the race. bill: watch, bam! heather: talk about tough... bill: i don't know if it is this race or i'm paying more attention to it, but it seems like there's a pile-up in that race, every day. there was another one, they went off of a hill, down the road, into a tree and the guy walked out with other members of the team and it was brutesal. heather: a big ouch! bill: casey anthony beat a murder rap in criminal court so a terrorist could probably do the same. that inference from the leading republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell, using casey anthony's acquittal as an example why civilian courts should not be trusted for terror suspects. >> these are not american
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citizens, we found with the caylee anthony case how difficult it is to get a conviction in a u.s. court. i don't think a foreigner is entitled to all of the protections of the bill of rights and should not be in u.s. courts and should be at guantanamo bay and, before military commissions. bill: was that too far or does he have a point, tom dupris, former deputy attorney general. good morning. >> good morning, bill. bill: this point was brought up, because, there was a somali who had been questioned by the u.s. on a navy ship, two months at sea and brought to new york, about a week ago. before anyone knew about it and, republicans charged it was an end-around. the way the administration can get away without using gitmo and a military tribunal, what was the point mitch mcconnell was making there. >> i think he was underscoring the uncertainty inherent any time a case in the u.s. system goes to a jury. juries can be unpredictable and it can be a hazardous business trying to forecast how a jury will resolve a case and the
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senator mcconnell is underscoring a fairly common sense point, if you have a case tried in a military court you have limits, and allows a prosecution to present a more focused case and you don't worry about restriction on evidence gathering that might otherwise apply. bill: or if you make a mistake, there can be a mistrial and the guy can walk free. >> consequences could be more severe, if you are talking about someone who is engaged in active hostilities or planning terrorist attacks against the u.s., that is exactly right. bill: i think there is a bigger point that i have heard from many people, yourself included. and that is if you use the civilian court, all that evidence you gather from overseas, is now made public and how much of a security threat could that be in your view. >> it could be a serious security threat. to be sure. federal courts can place restrictions and close the courtroom but those are extraordinary measures and the fact is if we are going to try terrorists, suspected terrorists in the u.s. courts, there is going to have to be a system to
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prevent that danger of classified national security sensitive information that is critical to a successful prosecution, being released into the public's sphere where other terrorists could site and take advantage of it and use it against the u.s. in the future. bill: do you think it could be the case with the somali. >> it absolutely could and i hope people in the administration have a plan so be sure classified sensitive information doesn't get released into the public where it can be used against u.s. interest. bill: you know where the department of justice stands on that and they say the cases they tried in the past have shown it can work. we'll see if that is the case here, if it goes to trial. tom, thank you. >> absolutely, thank you. bill: tom dupris in washington. what is next. heather: an overloaded pleasure cruise sinking, 41 people, now dead, 80 people are still missing, we'll have details on the search for survivors. bill: and a new television show that brings out the tears so many times. military members surprising their families back home. we'll talk to one such family and hear their heart-touching
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in ""america's newsroom"", the space shuttle atlantis crew, they have enough supplies to keep the space station operating for another year. look at this, the british health department saying that children under the age of five, even babies who aren't able to walk yet, should exercise every single day, the officials recommend three hours of activity for a day to help fight obesity. >> jury selection continuing today in the roger clemens perjury trial, the former superstar pitcher is accused of lying to congress under oath by claiming he never used performance enhancing drugs. bill: that was a cameo there, heather, did you see that? i like the baby exercise story, though, drop and give us 25, right? you're three. a blood bath now in america's back yard that leaves 40 people murdered in mexico in the last 40 years, more than half gund down at a nightclub in the northern city of monterey, many of them execution-style, hands, tied behind their backs.
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heavily armed members of the zeta drug cartel killing customers and workers. hours earlier 11 were found shot to death outside of mexico city, ten decapitated bodies found in the trunk of a car in central mexico. jason lahern is former acting commissioner of u.s. customs and border protection. jason, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: tell me and our audience why this is such a critical u.s. national security issue. >> well, it certainly shows a lot of the violence still is remaining in mexico, but i think we cannot be too unrelenting as far as moving forward with making sure we do not have what is referred to frequently as a spillover of violence in the united states. i think secondly, as we focus into the 2012 time frame, there are going to be elections in mexico and also here in the united states, we need to make sure as far as the vigilance against this criminal activity remains over the next 12 months. bill: the zetas, how fierce are they? >> i mean, i -- >> bill: are they the
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dominant cartel in mexico today? >> well, they certainly believe they are. but there's also some very other violent rival drug cartels, but the xetras are very -- vetas are significant, they were trained often times by special forces in the military in mexico and also additional training here in the united states before they actually formed their own criminal organization which initially was founded around protection for drug organization, so they've actually transitioned into leadership positions of the zetas. >> the bill: the execution style murders we're talking about here, just horrendous, makes your stomach turn, but when you think about since 2006, 35,000 plus have been killed that are directly related to these drug wars, how did the turf war start? does one cartel say i want to get this supply line all of ours, then one other group intercedes with that, that's where you get the friction? is that how it happens? >> i think there's a combination of many different events that are occurring. i think that 35,000 number
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is a u.n. number. some will actually say that number is closer to 40,000 as you take a look going back to the 2006 time frame. but i think it begins with a lot of the turf wars, whether the cartels are fighting for the different plazas that are referred to in mexico for the transportation of the drugs and the money, both coming into the united states and coming from the united states, back to replenish the resources, however the fights also start to get exacerbated when the military and mexican police take under the president's direction in mexico strong addressive -- aggressive actions to take the fight to the cartels. thirdly there's the innocentby stander, the unintended consequences of some of this criminal activity as well. bill: it's something you can't ignore and it's interesting, bringing up the point that there are elections in mexico next year, which as we know will be something that we will watch here very closely. jason, thank you for coming in today, out of washington. >> thank you bill. heather: all right everyone. stock up on your tissues right now, because there is a new tv show and it's
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premiering tonight that is sure to bring you to tears, it's on tlc, called "surprise home coming", it follows military members who are returning from overseas to surprise their loved ones. take a look at this: >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ i'm shaking. i am just shocked. i cannot believe he's here. i cannot believe he's finally home. heather: what a sight to see and a beautiful little girl that you have right there. joining us right now is that family that you just saw, they are on the show, private first class justin hart and his wife ashton, good morning and thank you so much for joining us. we saw that beautiful little girl right there. tell us a little about this. i understand your daughter, sir, was born just prior to
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your deployment to afghanistan, and you were away for 11 months. what was that like for you being away? >> it was really hard, you know, she was born a month before i left, and just knowing i was going to be gone that long, it was really hard to leave on that note. heather: certainly, and children grow an change so much in the first year of their lives. ashton, this was a total surprise for you. tell us what that was like when your husband came in the door and he was there to celebrate your daughter's first birthday. >> it was a great surprise. i was kind of caught up in the moment with the cameras and all of our family there, and to just see him walk around the corner, it was just a release of emotions, a lot of anxiety and fear, just kind of released all in one big moment. heather: justin, what was it like seeing your daughter after all that time? >> it was amazing. she had changed so much, from the time i left, you
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know, she was actually saying dada, and you know, saying my name, so it felt great to be able to see her. heather: ashton, this was a total surprise for you? and it looks like there are family members behind. did anybody know anything about this? >> a couple of my family members did know. they were really good at keeping the surprise for me. i thought that we were part of a different tv show, more focused on the baby, so i had no idea that he was going to be home. he wasn't scheduled to be home for another couple weeks. so it was a huge surprise. heather: certainly. tell us a little about this. you know, a lot of americans perhaps don't know members of the military or don't live in a military community the stress of the back to back deployments, you know. so what has it been like for you and your family? >> you know, being deployed, it definitely was hard on us, but it really brought us together. you know, our relationship with god, you know, you can
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look at the negative side of the deployment, but honestly, being a part from -- being apart from each other, knowing what we have back home really made our marriage great. heather: that's nice, you're back home in tennessee right now, so what is it you guys are going to do with the rest of your summer and your little daughter there? >> we're just enjoying the time that we have together. you know, enjoying the sun. we love going to the water park, taking our daughter swimming and stuff like that. so we're just hoping to relax. heather: well, we are sure glad you're home safely and that you are featured on this program, calmed "surprise home cls coming" on -- surprise homecoming" on tlc. what a sweet story, don't you love those? bill: have a great summer, too. great idea. heather: water parks, cool, with the little baby. bill: why didn't we come up with that idea? it was just waiting there. heather in a moment here, are we about to see a turning point in the debt
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crisis? before he meets with republican leaders the president will meet the media that is 20 minutes from now. heather: then there is a law that essentially bans, get this, the most common light bulb, the one we all know and love, but this one is getting a significant challenge, one congressman striking back. the battle of the bulb. we'll explain what's going on.
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bill: we are hearing from moscow, russian authorities say there is little hope now of finding anyone else alive, this after an overloaded vessel sunk on the bulger river sunday afternoon. the weather was stormy, we're told. two hundred eight people believed to be on the boat. only 80 have been rescued alive. as many as 128 now believed to have died, including many children. a tragedy in russia.
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heather: we are waiting to hear from president obama, after a deadlock in debt negotiations yesterday. he's giving lawmakers ten days to get together and try to make a deal. so where are things now? senator republican congresswoman marsha blackburn of tennessee, on the house energy and commerce committee. good morning. >> good morning. heather: we heard the president is going to give a short statement at about 11:00, then he's going to take questions from the media, before meeting with congressional leaders. it's a bit of a surprise the president is coming out and talking to the press first. what do you want to hear from him this morning? >> well, one of the things that i think if he were talking to me this morning, i would say tom, mr. president, you have gotten on the last nerve of the american people, and they don't want a tax increase, and you just don't seem to understand that. what they want to do is see the size, scope and cost of the federal government cut. they want the spending cuts. they want some caps in place. they want a balanced budget amendment to come out of washington and go to the
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states. and mr. president, it is time for you to give it up. you're not going to be able to raise taxes. >> health het the two sides are so far apart on this. how on earth do you think you're going to come together? >> i think that what we're going to do is continue to stand steadfast, cap, cul -- cut, balance. the american time are with us, they've said it time and again, washington is too big t. doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. this is a very serious issue. they are saying tell us the truth, let's get to work on this. but it means reducing the size of the federal government, reducing what it spends. and i'm glad to see american people have stuck with us on this. heather: but the president wants a trillion dollars in tax hikes, congress, the democrats in congress, at least, want more. so are republicans going to agree to some measure of tax hikes? >> the republicans are not going to agree to tax hikes. heather: so we go back at this again, how do the two
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sides come together when you're so far apart? >> there again, the american people and republicans in congress have been very clear, let's cut. you know, it's interesting, when you listen to what the economists are saying, they're not saying they're looking for a debt hike. they're looking for what we're going to do about spending reduction. the time has come to in a very serious, sober manner, address the spending, the out of control spending of the federal government. and that's what we're willing to do. we've put our plans forward, i've had my across the board spending cuts out there for years. i think this is the time where we say this is an opportunity to go make these cuts. let's get busy, let's make these cuts, reduce the size of regulation, reduce the size of these agencies, reduce what the federal government spends. heather: all right. i guess that comes down to who blinks first. we'll follow that angle, but there is something i want to ask you about today, there's a vote taking place on the floor of the house of representatives, you need two-thirds to pass this thing and this has to deal with light bulbs, the
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president signed into law in 2007 a pretty broad energy bill but among the things buried in this bill was essentially something that would get rid of the light bulbs we have today, congress backed in, republicans backed this before and now you want to get rid of it and these keep incandescent bulbs. >> and i voted no. the compact flooressent light bulbs are dangerous, they're filled with mercury, they don't work, they're subject to blowing out when you get a power surge. >> them, they work but the light is brighter and not so comfortable on peoples' eyes. >> it takes more to get the right amount of light. but basically, what has happened, these new standards banned the incandescent light bulbs and the now cfls are like the obama administration, they're too expensive to afford and the american people have said this is bad policy, the light bulbs don't work, we want
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incandescent light bulbs back on the marketplace. so we're going to be debating it on the floor, taking a vote and we need a two-thirds majority so people are going to have to call in and help us get this passed. heather: why is it that republicans supported this in the first place? >> there was a discussion about how do we make things more energy efficient and there was all this talk that this would be a way to use less energy and get more power, more efficiency out of the light bulb. the problem is the theory did not work. when it was translated into a product. and these light bulbs, the cfls, are all manufactured in china. they're not manufactured here. so we have lost those manufacturing jobs and our capital and jobs have gone to china for a product that has not done well. >> thank you very much, congresswoman marsha blackburn, and we'll find out what happens to the light bulb vote. when people asked the guys
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about it, they knew all about what was going on in washington, these are the salesmen right now as folks were stocking up on their old light bulbs. bill: "happening now" is in 11 minutes, rick folbaum is in for jon scott. rick: coming up on "happening now", the president as you've been saying getting set to speak to the country on the debt crisis in about ten minutes or so. we've got analysis with an all star lineup including bret baier out of washington and we want to hear from you. go to now, click on the america's asking tab and weigh in. also is the exclusion to cyber spying and crime a second internet? we'll have more on that idea. and the story of the bible's bad guys, the historical facts that are being uncovered in the israeli desert, coming up at the top of the hour on "happening now". back to you guys. bill: we'll take that mystery right on, rick, thanks, see you soon. getting breaking news right now out of damascus, we reported about an hour ago that the u.s. embassy had been surrounded by a mob
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for about three days, that mob broke into the embassy by use of a battering ram, they did not breach the husbanding complexity self, however, because u.s. marines on guard fought them back or disspelled the demonstrators from going much further, but now we're hearing the u.s. ambassador to syria, his residence in damascus has also been attacked. we're working for more information on that, that word coming from the associated press. in a moment, you thought it was all over, right, casey anthony's sentenced, it was going away, but a may lay led police on a chase from land to sea. how did that end you wonder?
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>> a fox news alert, talk over raising the debt
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ceiling, what democrats will give and will not and what republicans will give and will not. mike emanuel is live, getting ready for the press conference. why would he take questions before the meeting takes place? >> undoubtedly, bill, to make the case to the american public directly to, use the power of the president, the bully pulpit, if you will, to take his case directly to the american people, undoubtedly trying to sound like he's the adult in the room, casting himself that way to say i'm ready to make tough choices, i recognize this is a critical time, we got to get this done, and i'm looking for partners on capitol hill to help make it happen to in effect applying public pressure to the talks scheduled for 2:00 this afternoon. bill: on the outside, what is fascinating about this, a week ago, john boehner said that he told the white house, if you want to raise taxes, i don't have the votes in the house to get it through. then nancy pelosi came out and said mid week don't
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touch social security or medicare. >> right. bill: those are two pretty firm positions, so if you want to chew into this debt how do you get around those big elephants? taxes and social security? >> it feels like everybody has dug into their respective corner, don't raise tax, don't touch entitlements, the president does not want a short term deal, he's apparently told people in the meeting last night that if they pass a deal that doesn't carry until 2013 until after the election, then you know, he's not going to sign it, and so the president has got his sticking points, the democrats in the house have theirs, don't touch entitlements and of course the republicans in the senate and house don't want to raise taxes, so it is difficult to see exactly who's going to blink first and where we find common ground to find a deal. bill: i also think the senate and house leaders, they know where the votes are at the moment. i mean, they're counting heads, right? >> oh, absolutely. they're counting heads. it's just a question of whether one part of an
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agreement goes a little too far for one particular constituency, whether that caves a bunch of votes, so you'd better believe there's a lot of vote counting. bill: we are standing by with you here in new york, break here, back in a moment, we'll find out whether or not there could be a deal in minutes.
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bill: we've been waiting on this, it's about 60 seconds away or so. we'll see whether or not there's a deal. i don't know, you think there is? what's the good money say, heather! >> heather: who blinks first, that's the question. the president wants republicans to increase taxes, republicans don't want to do that, and we'll have to follow this one. bill: the lines are drawn. we also know this august 2nd deadline is hanging out there. some people say that will be the end of the world where america falls off a cliff, others say not so fast, we've heard that before. we're waiting on the president to see whether or not there is progress or movement because there is a significant meeting this afternoon at the white house and we'll have that covered


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